Comments on: Microsoft Security Essentials? http://blog.eset.com/2009/06/22/microsoft-security-essentials Sun, 12 Feb 2012 22:29:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: David Harley http://blog.eset.com/2009/06/22/microsoft-security-essentials/comment-page-1#comment-467946 David Harley Mon, 14 Nov 2011 09:32:32 +0000 http://www.eset.com/threat-center/blog/?p=1196#comment-467946 I don't know of any specific, known conflicts, but running two AVs in tandem always has the potential to cause significant problems. In any case, I'd expect running them both on-access to have a noticeable and negative effect on performance without a corresponding gain in security. I don’t know of any specific, known conflicts, but running two AVs in tandem always has the potential to cause significant problems. In any case, I’d expect running them both on-access to have a noticeable and negative effect on performance without a corresponding gain in security.

]]> By: Fizool Chand Eset http://blog.eset.com/2009/06/22/microsoft-security-essentials/comment-page-1#comment-467240 Fizool Chand Eset Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:21:01 +0000 http://www.eset.com/threat-center/blog/?p=1196#comment-467240 Can Using ESET and Microsoft S.E. cause any conflict? Can Using ESET and Microsoft S.E. cause any conflict?

]]> By: Randy Abrams http://blog.eset.com/2009/06/22/microsoft-security-essentials/comment-page-1#comment-159873 Randy Abrams Thu, 10 Mar 2011 18:44:02 +0000 http://www.eset.com/threat-center/blog/?p=1196#comment-159873 Herman, the blog is not used for product support. Vista is a Microsoft product, not an ESET product. There are numerous Microsoft support forums where your question is appropriate, the ESET blog is not such a forum. Herman, the blog is not used for product support. Vista is a Microsoft product, not an ESET product. There are numerous Microsoft support forums where your question is appropriate, the ESET blog is not such a forum.

]]> By: herman hewlett http://blog.eset.com/2009/06/22/microsoft-security-essentials/comment-page-1#comment-158967 herman hewlett Sat, 05 Mar 2011 17:31:04 +0000 http://www.eset.com/threat-center/blog/?p=1196#comment-158967 I use vista and every time i turn on my computer it wants to run a complete disk check!,when i miss the 10 sec. window and let it do a full scan,it still does the same thing on start up! DON'T want to dump VISTA,but this is a PAIN Any help is appricated!!!! I use vista and every time i turn on my computer it wants to run a complete disk check!,when i miss the 10 sec. window and let it do a full scan,it still does the same thing on start up! DON'T want to dump VISTA,but this is a PAIN
Any help is appricated!!!!

]]> By: neighborlee http://blog.eset.com/2009/06/22/microsoft-security-essentials/comment-page-1#comment-122516 neighborlee Sun, 05 Sep 2010 17:56:25 +0000 http://www.eset.com/threat-center/blog/?p=1196#comment-122516 " All jokes about the name aside, Microsoft hopes that their free solution will get people who currently do not use antivirus software to install the Microsoft offering. " ^ Really ?; If that is their true goal, they need to go back to the drawing board , and here is why: ; I 've tried to get help from Microsoft for three days now, all culminating this morning in the direction of supposedly needing to download some antivirus scan tool called vipre . I've used various free antivirus offerings because well I have generally felt they were adequate. I decided after going through varius headaches with uninstall problems, that I would give MSE a try given well, that its from the 'big M!'. Boy was I wrong it would seem, as though a one hour session with a lovely indian speaking individual yielded both frustration ( that thick accent of theirs, hampered by a imperfect english grammar usage !) whereby he was unable to fix it so MSE would install, and on top of that this morning I get a call saying that the tech rep would not be able to call me ( 7:30 am mind you ) because their lines were broken ??? I thought , ok sure she spoke well but again,- very hard to understand her sometimes and Im almost sure we had a communication problem, but no problem here as I was called back at appointed time by escalated rep . He, in his slightly arrogant tone ( indian rep again ) told me that while other virus programs ( in this case antiVIR free version ) were easily able to install on my computer, came with high ratings from various view sites and updates upon installation and found I had no virus's,- that dont you know its all about 'virus definitions' leading to MSE's inability to be able to just simply install. If MSE is SO SURE it can't install, then why can't it just tell me why, and on top of that why isn't there a log file indicating the exact directory &/or file where I need to look to find the problem, so that I can then install. Now Im told I need to run a safe scan using VIPRE, which btw might take 4-6 hours. Am I to believe this is really necessary or just a waste of time . I dont recall the website, but I'm almost sure that a Micrsoft forum post made it clear that since onecare ( which yes no longer exists as it were) has no 64bit scanning app that I should use ESET,- which I did and it found no infection at all; yet Im supposed to run a VIPRE scan that might take 4-6 hours as its done in safe mode blah. I and my friend , for these reasons and others ( Why can't Microsoft just get rid of the clearly imperfect registry?) are going to, as soon as we humanly can, switch to MacOSX and never look back, and cross our fingers that experience is better. At least theoretically we wont ever again have to worry about Anti-virus programs and the headaches associated with them . I remember a day when I could call tech support and get someone who spoke perfect english without a heavy accent, and my experience was near perfect, but those days are clearly over now that companies find huge profit in outsoucing. That is fine, but this computer user and at least one of this friends, is oursourcing their OS hopefully very soon to a different company entirely and hoping for a better experience. While I yearn for that day, I will simply follow through with this safe-mode VIPRE scan, and remember harshly if it fixes it, the hastle I went through to get there and that at the end of day, it was not worth it but that I had no choice short term ;) cheers nl ” All jokes about the name aside, Microsoft hopes that their free solution will get people who currently do not use antivirus software to install the Microsoft offering. ”

^ Really ?; If that is their true goal, they need to go back to the drawing board , and here is why: ;

I ‘ve tried to get help from Microsoft for three days now, all culminating this morning in the direction of supposedly needing to download some antivirus scan tool called vipre .

I’ve used various free antivirus offerings because well I have generally felt they were adequate. I decided after going through varius headaches with uninstall problems, that I would give MSE a try given well, that its from the ‘big M!’.

Boy was I wrong it would seem, as though a one hour session with a lovely indian speaking individual yielded both frustration ( that thick accent of theirs, hampered by a imperfect english grammar usage !) whereby he was unable to fix it so MSE would install, and on top of that this morning I get a call saying that the tech rep would not be able to call me ( 7:30 am mind you ) because their lines were broken ???

I thought , ok sure she spoke well but again,- very hard to understand her sometimes and Im almost sure we had a communication problem, but no problem here as I was called back at appointed time by escalated rep .

He, in his slightly arrogant tone ( indian rep again ) told me that while other virus programs ( in this case antiVIR free version ) were easily able to install on my computer, came with high ratings from various view sites and updates upon installation and found I had no virus’s,- that dont you know its all about ‘virus definitions’ leading to MSE’s inability to be able to just simply install.

If MSE is SO SURE it can’t install, then why can’t it just tell me why, and on top of that why isn’t there a log file indicating the exact directory &/or file where I need to look to find the problem, so that I can then install.

Now Im told I need to run a safe scan using VIPRE, which btw might take 4-6 hours. Am I to believe this is really necessary or just a waste of time .

I dont recall the website, but I’m almost sure that a Micrsoft forum post made it clear that since onecare ( which yes no longer exists as it were) has no 64bit scanning app that I should use ESET,- which I did and it found no infection at all; yet Im supposed to run a VIPRE scan that might take 4-6 hours as its done in safe mode blah.

I and my friend , for these reasons and others ( Why can’t Microsoft just get rid of the clearly imperfect registry?) are going to, as soon as we humanly can, switch to MacOSX and never look back, and cross our fingers that experience is better. At least theoretically we wont ever again have to worry about Anti-virus programs and the headaches associated with them .

I remember a day when I could call tech support and get someone who spoke perfect english without a heavy accent, and my experience was near perfect, but those days are clearly over now that companies find huge profit in outsoucing. That is fine, but this computer user and at least one of this friends, is oursourcing their OS hopefully very soon to a different company entirely and hoping for a better experience.

While I yearn for that day, I will simply follow through with this safe-mode VIPRE scan, and remember harshly if it fixes it, the hastle I went through to get there and that at the end of day, it was not worth it but that I had no choice short term ;)

cheers
nl

]]> By: Dragos Enculescu http://blog.eset.com/2009/06/22/microsoft-security-essentials/comment-page-1#comment-82954 Dragos Enculescu Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:33:24 +0000 http://www.eset.com/threat-center/blog/?p=1196#comment-82954 I had a bad situation. At the beginning of the year, after the holidays, it was a virus in company. All the PCs are protected by NOD AV Business Edition, which says that all are OK. The virus was 100% present, because the company IP was almost in all the black lists. All mails send by workers were returned with well-known message “550 rejected …”. So, like Andre Hildinger says, not all that like fine is also wonderful. I had a bad situation. At the beginning of the year, after the holidays, it was a virus in company. All the PCs are protected by NOD AV Business Edition, which says that all are OK. The virus was 100% present, because the company IP was almost in all the black lists. All mails send by workers were returned with well-known message “550 rejected …”.
So, like Andre Hildinger says, not all that like fine is also wonderful.

]]> By: Randy Abrams http://blog.eset.com/2009/06/22/microsoft-security-essentials/comment-page-1#comment-81636 Randy Abrams Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:49:58 +0000 http://www.eset.com/threat-center/blog/?p=1196#comment-81636 Actually, I didn't criticize Microsoft at all. read the post again and you will see that I said nothing critical of Microsoft. If there is any specific point you take exception with then let me know. As for MSE removing something that NOD32 didn't, it is very common with all products that they will detect and or remove something another does not. One or two or 20 samples is not nearly enough to draw conclusions as to the comparative overall effectiveness of any AV product. Actually, I didn’t criticize Microsoft at all. read the post again and you will see that I said nothing critical of Microsoft. If there is any specific point you take exception with then let me know. As for MSE removing something that NOD32 didn’t, it is very common with all products that they will detect and or remove something another does not. One or two or 20 samples is not nearly enough to draw conclusions as to the comparative overall effectiveness of any AV product.

]]> By: Andre Hildinger http://blog.eset.com/2009/06/22/microsoft-security-essentials/comment-page-1#comment-81606 Andre Hildinger Tue, 02 Feb 2010 13:02:48 +0000 http://www.eset.com/threat-center/blog/?p=1196#comment-81606 I had NOD32 for a while and I convinced my boss to buy for the company I work. At first it was very good. NOD could remove conficker from our network withour problems. But since some MONTHS ago we got another virus (and we knew we had it) and NOD couldn't remove it... So after those months, NOD still couldn't remove it. My colleague then tried to use Security Essential... and... Voilà! Security Essentials removed it and found that conficker was not completely removed from the system...   So be careful with your words.   After this fact I was unhappy with NOD, but after I read this, I got even unhappier, since you are criticising something that is probably better than your product and it's free. I had NOD32 for a while and I convinced my boss to buy for the company I work.
At first it was very good. NOD could remove conficker from our network withour problems.
But since some MONTHS ago we got another virus (and we knew we had it) and NOD couldn't remove it…
So after those months, NOD still couldn't remove it.
My colleague then tried to use Security Essential… and… Voilà!
Security Essentials removed it and found that conficker was not completely removed from the system…
 
So be careful with your words.
 
After this fact I was unhappy with NOD, but after I read this, I got even unhappier, since you are criticising something that is probably better than your product and it's free.

]]> By: DaE http://blog.eset.com/2009/06/22/microsoft-security-essentials/comment-page-1#comment-77087 DaE Mon, 21 Dec 2009 12:43:30 +0000 http://www.eset.com/threat-center/blog/?p=1196#comment-77087 Well, I think MSSE is a very good software as I had use it before (currently using Eset Smart Security 4). It detects viruses and thrests i purposely downloaded from the internet. But I go back to ESET because of the startup time. MSSE starts up a bit (really a bit) slower than ESET. However, believe me, ESET and MSSE have no difference (for me) in performance. I had use many types of security software, to name A FEW: Kaspersky Internet Security, AVG Internet Security, ZoneAlarm, Vipre, F-Secure, Twister antivirus, Avira, Ad-Aware, Panda. I think the best is Eset but MSSE is still in my consideration. Well, I think MSSE is a very good software as I had use it before (currently using Eset Smart Security 4). It detects viruses and thrests i purposely downloaded from the internet. But I go back to ESET because of the startup time. MSSE starts up a bit (really a bit) slower than ESET. However, believe me, ESET and MSSE have no difference (for me) in performance. I had use many types of security software, to name A FEW: Kaspersky Internet Security, AVG Internet Security, ZoneAlarm, Vipre, F-Secure, Twister antivirus, Avira, Ad-Aware, Panda. I think the best is Eset but MSSE is still in my consideration.

]]> By: Vic http://blog.eset.com/2009/06/22/microsoft-security-essentials/comment-page-1#comment-64992 Vic Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:36:32 +0000 http://www.eset.com/threat-center/blog/?p=1196#comment-64992 "Given the numerous choices for free antivirus software out there, I do not see how this will be effective, but more power to Microsoft for trying." I'd say this is completely incorrect, given that most PC users aren't that tech-savvy and won't go out to find their own anti-virus programs unless their Windows Update tells them to download something. I, personally, would not switch away from NOD32, as I believe it's the best anti-virus program out there, but a free version from Microsoft that is available straight from a notification of Windows Update will help a lot of PC users. “Given the numerous choices for free antivirus software out there, I do not see how this will be effective, but more power to Microsoft for trying.”

I’d say this is completely incorrect, given that most PC users aren’t that tech-savvy and won’t go out to find their own anti-virus programs unless their Windows Update tells them to download something.

I, personally, would not switch away from NOD32, as I believe it’s the best anti-virus program out there, but a free version from Microsoft that is available straight from a notification of Windows Update will help a lot of PC users.

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